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  When You First Saw This Place What Was Your Reaction?

  by minimus in

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  were you shocked?.

  was it eye opening?.

  did you think these "apostates" were pretty much right?.

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  I thought you were all crazy - and still do in some cases.

  I was really shocked at first but then it started to all make sense.
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  The Evolution of the Eye.

  by whereami in

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  fascinating stuff.. .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9_x1wgm7e.

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  Hey Caedes

  You did not deny that my digital camera had a designer - in fact you stated that it definately did.

  Now we will put the "human eye is a botched job argument" to once side for a moment.

  I would wager that most people would agree that the human eye is more impressive than my cluncky 10 megapixel camera. Your view is that my inferior camera "definately" had a designer and yet tthe vastly more superior human eye did not - argument collapses.

  As I said at the start - it is truly laughable that people actually believe wonderful, beautiful, detailed objects like the eye are the result of random processes. Of course the evolutionist community have got to attempt to explain the eye from a non creator perspective - but it seems to dig evolutionists into a deeper hole.

  Anyway - no big deal - we agree to disagree.

  The Scotsman -
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  The Evolution of the Eye.

  by whereami in

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  fascinating stuff.. .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9_x1wgm7e.

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  But then presumably the designer of your camera isn't claiming to be an omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe who demands worship

  No - the designer is just an intelligent human (or group of humans) who design and construct cameras. If not for these humans digital cameras would not exist -or would they have evolved to? Intelligence existed first before the camera (that's kinda my point).

  Also, your camera engineer presumably hasn't left in fundamental design flaws he has fixed in other cameras he has designed.

  Who decides if something is a flaw or not. People point to other living things that clearly have better eyesight than humans as proof "somehow" that God bungled human eye sight. To live my life I do not need eagle eye vision or radar sight or night vision - my eyes are just fine for me.

  And yes. eyes are not perfect - no part of a human being is perfect. I am sure I read that in a book somewhere..............
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  The Evolution of the Eye.

  by whereami in

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  fascinating stuff.. .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9_x1wgm7e.

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  I have just picked up my 10 megapixel camera and I was just thinking to myself - "Why is this not a 15 megapixel?

  The designer clearly made a botched job of the 10 megapixel camera - because its not the best.
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  The Evolution of the Eye.

  by whereami in

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  fascinating stuff.. .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9_x1wgm7e.

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  To say the eye evolved is laughable......

  """If God or some other omnipotent force was responsible for the human eye, it was something of a botched design."""

  LOL........
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  Do's and Don'ts Debating Creationists

  by bohm in

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  after watching lwts thread where maher was floored by orielly i thought this would be interesting to post.

  ken miller and fred edwords discuss how to debate creationists:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppmu081ge9y.

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  Do's and don'ts debating Creationists??!!!

  Don't do it - its pointless.

  Do's and dont's debating evolutionists??!!!

  Don't do it - its pointless.

  Do's and dont's debating atheists??!!!

  Don't do it - its pointless.

  Everything that can be said has been said on these subjects - countless debates have been held on this site for years and not led anywhere very quickly. Why can't everyone just except that others may have different beliefs - live and let live.
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  37% of Brits are Atheists or Aggies ?

  by wobble in

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  a consumer activist site here in the u.k runs an on-line straw poll on a different subject each week.. this time the question was "what religion are you ?

  the tick boxes listed all the common faiths, r.c, cof e, jewish etc, along with "other" and "non-practising".

  out of 5,000 respondents 22% said non-practising.. 22% said atheist.. !3% said agnostic.. i think this may be a fair reflection of belief in the u.k today, 37% who do not believe in god, plus another 22% who are not convinced, hence non-practising.. after over 100 years of preaching the dubs are fighting a losing battle.. of course they were far too small a group to warrant their own tick-box on the survey.. .

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  Only 22% claim to be atheist - this is good news. The last survey of this type I read had atheism at 25% in the UK.

  Interesting quote on Sky News the other day (related to the coverage of the Pope last week). A survey was conducted in the UK and the question was - Do you consider yourself "Spiritual"?

  71% said yes.

  Thats surveys for you - it depends who you ask and what questions that are used.

  The UK definately has a fairly strong atheistic, agnostic under-current - but has this had a positive influence on this nation - hmm......
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  Where was the last assembly you attended?

  by Little Imp in

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  we last went to one in 2006 - it was the channel islands.

  can't remember whether it was jersey or guernsey as they alternate, have been to both as we went to the channel islands in 2005 too.

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  Perth Scotland - October 2007.

  Wow - its been that long......
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  What's the saddest movie you've ever seen?

  by JimmyPage in

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  i'm asking because i just watched "the road".

  it may not be the saddest but it's up there.

  "my sister's keeper" was a real tearjerker too..

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  Schindlers List - first movie to bring me to tears in the actual cinema.

  I looked across the aisle and looked at another guy there - he was in tears as well.
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  A Newbies Story

  by Lets Think in

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  resigned as an elder last week.

  briefly this is my story.

  i was raised as a witness in the 60s and 70s.

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  Lets think - welcome to the JWN board.

  As you can imagine we can relate to your experience.

  I too was an elder - resigned Oct 2007 due to the question box article in the Sept 2007 KM - look it up - you will understand. That was the final blow for me.

  Original plan was to keep going to meetings - but I could'nt do it - once I could see/hear the hypocricy and lies the meetings became unbearable. My wife followed me out 6 months later - woo hoo!

  But it is tricky - family ties and all that.

  Anyway - all the best for the future - and keep your faith in God.

  The Scotsman